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Friday, July 18, 2014

How to determine what may have changed (figuring out how to work around perforce slowness)

Determine what has changed using full content comparison

- slow (especially transferring whole content across net)

- completely accurate



Determine what has probably changed using content checksums

- transfer only checksums across net => fast if no change

- may be inaccurate if checksums collide (yeah, I am paranoid)

- computation (of checksum) on both sides

   - or, a VC tool may cache checksums of original checkout => local change

- false negatives - no change detected - if checksums collide - but ubnlikely

- no false positives



Determine what may have changed using heuristics and metadata

- e.g. file modification dates

- e.g. whether user has checked a file out for editing or not

- false positives and false negatives

- false negatives  - undetected changes - may be common, e.g. if not using modification dates or if M times can be changed









p4v "get latest" seems to use the third approach, heuristics and metadata.   I got bitten by false negatives - true changes not reported - almost immediately.







p4v "get revision / latest / force" uses the full content transfer.



I realized that I was implicitly assuming the second approach, content checksums. Fast, very l;ow chance of false negatives (checksum collision).   I.e. I have grown used to rsync and its descendants.  It does not appear that p4/p4v have this ability.







It is not clear where "p4v reconcile" falls.   It is possible that p4v reconcile uses local metadata heuristics, and that p4v reconcile in combination with p4v get latest is high confidence.   But having been burned once, I am using p4v-get-revision/latest/force far too often.  And it is very slow.





Perhaps what I need to do is keep a clean workspace, use p4v get latest on that, and then diff using local tools.   Avoids the slow net transfers of p4v-get-revision/latest/force.














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